Comments for Airships.net https://www.airships.net The Graf Zeppelin, Hindenburg, U.S. Navy Airships, and other Dirigibles Tue, 26 Dec 2023 16:50:29 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.2 Comment on Hindenburg’s Maiden Voyage Passenger List by luis nascimento https://www.airships.net/hindenburg/flight-schedule/maiden-voyage/#comment-694509 Tue, 26 Dec 2023 16:50:29 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=2359#comment-694509 Good day. Wonderful pages. Rio de Janeiro has the only and one HINDENBURG shed made by the zeppelin company ans well preserved, I have been there recently is awesome! up today its size is powerful, seems the MIGHT DLZ129 was about to land …. I strongly recommend the visit.

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Comment on The Hindenburg Disaster by Dan Grossman https://www.airships.net/hindenburg/disaster/#comment-694508 Tue, 26 Dec 2023 12:26:11 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1853#comment-694508 In reply to Miguel Sanchez.

Most films like this are reprints of newsreels sold for home viewing. If you unwind the first several feet of film you should be able to see if there is a leader indicating that it was a newsreel.

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Comment on The Hindenburg Disaster by Miguel Sanchez https://www.airships.net/hindenburg/disaster/#comment-694483 Mon, 25 Dec 2023 17:04:09 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1853#comment-694483 In reply to Rawr.

A great piece of history these is the first time i have read about these disaster .The reason for me searching for this information is that I found a 16mm 3 5/8 movie reel with hand writing label Hindenburg Disaster and cannot view it to see if the film is any good.Do not own that type of projector I was born two months later July 10 1937.

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Comment on The Hindenburg’s Interior: Passenger Decks by Dan Grossman https://www.airships.net/hindenburg/interiors/#comment-693725 Sat, 02 Dec 2023 03:06:33 +0000 https://www.airships.net/wordpress/?page_id=30#comment-693725 In reply to Brenda Stolecki.

I don’t know what documentary you are referring to, but Hindenburg never “switched” to H2 because it never operated with anything else.

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Comment on The Hindenburg’s Interior: Passenger Decks by Brenda Stolecki https://www.airships.net/hindenburg/interiors/#comment-693724 Sat, 02 Dec 2023 01:53:36 +0000 https://www.airships.net/wordpress/?page_id=30#comment-693724 In reply to Peadar.

The Documentary says they switched to hydrogen when they added the 2nd deck for 20 people. It was lighter and able to carry the added weight.

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Comment on The Hindenburg’s Interior: Passenger Decks by Brenda Stolecki https://www.airships.net/hindenburg/interiors/#comment-693723 Sat, 02 Dec 2023 01:47:11 +0000 https://www.airships.net/wordpress/?page_id=30#comment-693723 In reply to Brian Torrico.

This is true about boarding houses.My Polish immigrant grandparents married and lived in a boarding house for almost 15 years before they bought their first home. My dad was almost 9 years old, the youngest. My grandmother gave birth to 3 boys while living in the boarding house!. She actually bore twins with my dad, but his twin was stillborn. I think this had to be a rough life. I don’t know if they kept 1 room or rented 2. My grandmother returned to work when all the boys were in school. But, they dropped out after 7th grade. Each went to work. The oldest was in WWII and survived. The next 2 still enlisted when the war was over.

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Comment on Titanic and Hindenburg by PhilC https://www.airships.net/blog/titanic-hindenburg/#comment-693697 Fri, 01 Dec 2023 00:25:22 +0000 http://www.Airships.net/?p=12106#comment-693697 In reply to Dan Grossman.

….and ocean liners offered their passengers freedom from being airsick!

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Comment on ZR-1 U.S.S. Shenandoah by Maida B. Follihi https://www.airships.net/us-navy-rigid-airships/uss-shenandoah/#comment-693530 Sat, 25 Nov 2023 21:58:58 +0000 https://www.airships.net/wordpress/?page_id=214#comment-693530 My grandmother in 1925 saw the Shenandoah, flying at night. She lived in Rye, New York and summered in Isleboro, Maine, She may have seen the Shenandoah when it was visiting Bar Harbor during the U.S. Governors’
Conference in July, 1925. The Shenandoah flew the Governors around, sight-seeing and giving then a chance to experience airship flight. A poet, she wrote the following sonnet about the airship:

Shenandoah
by May Folwell Hoisington

Down through the frosty air vibrating fell
A whirring sound insistent as a drum;
We listened, questing eyes upraised; the hum
Now tingling through us. Where the star-groups dwell
A newer constellation seemed to swell
In magnitude; a meteor become,
It swam above us. Awed at first and dumb,
We watched it, tranced as in a fabled spell.

Into the moohight swung the shadow-craft,
A form ante-diluvian of dread;
With reptile, shark-like tapering fore and aft,
It crossed the moon in sinisterdark shape.
This link you dreamed, Jules Verne, hail from the dead!
The chain is lengthening from man to ape.

[copyright MFH, may be used with correct attribution to May Folwell Hoisington]

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Comment on The Hindenburg’s Interior: Passenger Decks by Christina Beebe https://www.airships.net/hindenburg/interiors/#comment-693239 Mon, 13 Nov 2023 18:17:01 +0000 https://www.airships.net/wordpress/?page_id=30#comment-693239 It’s like a cruise ship in the sky, without the water slides and pool cant forget the balcony cabin.

It is so so sad with all those lives lost. πŸ™

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Comment on Queen Mary and Hindenburg: A Detailed Comparison by PhilC https://www.airships.net/blog/hindenburg-queen-mary-choose/#comment-693210 Sat, 11 Nov 2023 00:38:46 +0000 http://www.Airships.net/?p=11260#comment-693210 An interesting article, but you missed several points for consideration.

‘Queen Mary’ was the first ship to cross the Atlantic in under four days, when she claimed the ‘Blue Riband’ from her French rival ‘Normandie’ in 1938 (a record she would hold for the next fourteen years). Whilst the ‘Hindenburg’ was clearly faster, liners like ‘Queen Mary’ (& predecessors like ‘Mauretania’; ‘Aquitania’; ‘Olympic’ and ‘Majestic’) were beloved ‘ships of state’. There was already a ‘cache’ about passenger liners (their image appeared on everything from cigarette cards to biscuit tins), in terms of their size, speed and luxury accommodation, which never emerged for the airships. Whether it would have done in time, had the disaster at Lakehurst not occurred, is debatable. In the minds of many in Belgium; France and Great Britain (even before the rise of National Socialism), airships were still the detested ‘Zeppelins’ which had bombed and killed civilians during WW1.

On the mention of war, the use (in times of conflict) of either vehicle is also relevant. Liners had proved useful as merchant raiders; hospital ships and troop transports during WW1, and this was repeated in WW2. In July 1943, Queen Mary carried 15,740 soldiers and 943 crew (total 16,683), a standing record for the most people ever transported on one vessel. In fact, Winston Churchill credited the efforts of the ‘Queen Mary’ (& her sister the ‘Queen Elizabeth’ with reducing the duration of WW2 by a whole year. In contrast, whatever advantages the airship had had in WW1, no longer existed due to advances in aircraft design. The remaining airships (Graf Zeppelin and Graf Zeppelin II) were scrapped in March 1940.

An issue related to speed is punctuality, as customers want to know that a service will depart and arrive on time. There is no doubt that the weather could delay travel by air and sea. Fog delayed the arrival of the ‘Queen Mary’ in New York on her maiden voyage in 1936, just as a thunderstorm delayed the ‘Hindenburg’ in 1937. However, it appears that air travel was more affected. During the 1936 season, ‘Hindenburg’s’ ten westward trips took 53 to 78 hours and eastward trips took 43 to 61 hours, meaning she arrived up to a day late (adding 50% to some journey times). No doubt there were times when the ‘Queen Mary’ was delayed, but I’m not aware she ever docked more than half a day behind schedule.

With regard to ‘The Views’, just like the ‘Hindenburg’, the ‘Queen Mary’ could offer spectacular views. Not only from behind the large windows of the promenade deck but also from the boat deck above and sun deck above that. In addition, I believe the airship only offered views to either side, whereas the ‘Queen Mary’ also offered her passengers views fore and aft via her tiered decks and glassed in observation lounges. The Atlantic ‘was often grey, stormy, cold, and foggy’ and this applied to both forms of travel. An empty ocean, with waves rolling beneath an empty grey sky, is equally boring, regardless of whether it is viewed from the deck of a liner or an airship.

Finally, regarding reference β€” there is no contest. I’d choose travelling on the ‘Queen Mary’ every time.

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