Comments on: Airship Voyages Made Easy https://www.airships.net The Graf Zeppelin, Hindenburg, U.S. Navy Airships, and other Dirigibles Thu, 04 Aug 2022 11:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.3.2 By: Dan Grossman https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-683213 Thu, 04 Aug 2022 11:23:00 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-683213 In reply to Pete the Greek.

It’s hard to convert past amounts to present value (it’s a much more complicated calculation than people often imagine) but the figures you quote are generally in line with first class airfares today.

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By: Pete the Greek https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-682667 Sun, 10 Jul 2022 05:40:03 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-682667 In reply to Dan.

That means now (from Dan’s comment) that the one way would now be about $8000 one way! Or maybe $15000 round trip, when the aircraft flights to Germany are between $1000-1400 depending one the season. So it’s an order of magnitude more expensive. Would you pay $15000 to fly by airship? If it was $1500 to go from London to Paris, or even from London to Edinburgh, which would again be very expensive, yes, I would, but the total amount of $15000 is more than I would swallow.

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By: Stuart https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-595867 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 03:27:17 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-595867 In reply to Hanna Lin.

Zeppelins were amazingly efficient in terms of fuel use. They could remain aloft for very long periods of time and set records for long distance travel. They could only carry the fuel that they could lift, nothing more. Even with that, the Graf crossed the Pacific ocean non-stop from Tokyo to Los Angeles without refueling, while carrying passengers and crew. The Hindenburg could carry up to about 52 passengers initially (more passenger cabins added in 1937) with about 40-plus crew consisting of officers, engineers, riggers and hotel duty personnel. The weight in tons you refer to is 236 tons to be exact on typical flights. That was the wight of the hull and the passengers, fuel, mail, cargo, and whatnot. The Hindenburg did carry about 60 tons of diesel fuel and burned about 1150 pounds per hour with all four Maybachs turning 1350 revolutions. Compare that to an airliner and how much av-gas it burns making the same trans-Atlantic crossing in far less time and less comfort than the Hindenburg did. The water consumed aboard the Hindenburg was potable use for cooking, washing, drinking and toilets. It accounted for only 1.2 tons while the water ballast carried aboard for keeping the ship statically trim was almost 16 tons! To answer your question, they did travel efficiently and very comfortably. The Hindenburg was the Concorde of her day.

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By: Stuart https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-595861 Mon, 16 Nov 2015 03:11:52 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-595861 In reply to RayB.

Hi Ray. The reason why the American naval airships were lost had to do with the technology of the day concerning weather. If Adm. Moffett, Capt. Lansdowne and Comdr. Wiley had a modern I-phone on their person with all the information we can access today, they could see wind sheer, the rain bands, the direction the storms were heading, wind speed, barometric pressure, and most importantly, where they were – exactly. All these things weren’t possible in the early days of flight with dead reckoning for navigation and looking visually at clouds to see what they were about. Limited surface weather conditions were telegraphed to the ships but the overall picture wasn’t possible then. That’s why the American Navy airship program didn’t do well then and why today’s airships have a stellar safety record.

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By: albert https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-555232 Tue, 03 Feb 2015 07:08:57 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-555232 Thank you for giving us a site like this to pique our interests.

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By: william https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-547646 Sat, 27 Dec 2014 13:20:02 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-547646 In reply to Dan Grossman.

thank you dan for pointing out wagners horrific errors; like his whole statement!

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By: Dan Grossman https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-547368 Fri, 26 Dec 2014 02:34:32 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-547368 In reply to Wagner Roberts.

Sadly you ARE horribly mistaken; almost everything in your comment is inaccurate.

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By: Frederica TB. B. Lee https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-545866 Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:35:00 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-545866 I was doing my research on airships, as I dream to fly/sail a traditional victorian airship across few seas and continents. Thanks a lot for your website and I am very happy that I have stumbled upon this site. I wonder if this would still be possible these days. I do not know where to start, but this site really gave me some insight. Thanks.

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By: Wagner Roberts https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-544000 Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:34:05 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-544000 If i am not horribly mistaken, it was not so much the hydrogen that contributed to the Hindenburg disaster as the paint on the skin of the airship. That paint formula was meant to be very durable and reflect sunlight off the airship: unfortunately, it turns out to be the same formula that would later be used for solid rocket fuel. Any viewing of the film of the disaster bears this out– the skin is actually burning faster than the hydrogen inside the airship. And, of course, it was the Americans’ embargo to Germany of helium that forced the Germans to use the much more volatile hydrogen to fuel their airships in the first place. And yes, I agree– transatlantic flight is a disgrace and only several notches above the slave trade for inconvenience to the passenger. Someone should bring back the airship! All hail to Zeppelin!

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By: Stu https://www.airships.net/airship-travel-brochure/#comment-366642 Thu, 17 Apr 2014 02:58:10 +0000 https://www.airships.net/?page_id=1631#comment-366642 In reply to Gene A Dees.

Gene; The dream of large passenger airships carrying revenue-producing patrons to destinations near and far is quite possible. The challenges are reinstating existing aged hangers to build the first prototype and operate it from while it made it’s debut to the world. Once the prototype has proven her capabilities, the orders will start coming in and eventually a newer facility can be erected to make and store large airships efficiently.
Today’s air traveler is desperate for an alternative to cramming into pressure bottles made of aluminum with hundreds of others for long hours hurtling through the thin air at 35,000 feet altitude. Today’s air traveler is perfectly willing to shell out twice or even more for their ticket if that ticket means they can have room to walk around, choose a lounge seat or a table to sit at, stroll to their private cabin to freshen up or take a nap in private. The weary air traveler is desperate for a meal in flight that isn’t tossed at them in a little plastic bag, but served on fine china over a linen tablecloth with a large window with one hell of a view. If it’s built, they will come.

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